As a last note on my replay media catcher, and a twice reformatted machine with windows xp. It does not record http streams. A file is recorded and labeled with a seemingly random numbers and filed as an mp3. However it does not play. But if I refile it or rename it as an flv file it will play with the flash player. So, how can I make replay media catcher work properly? It grabs video and audio mp3 streams such as audio archives and wolfgangs vault without a problem......Oh and big thanks for your link to Orbit. Downloads anything! -gkapheim